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Sep 5, 2021 6:00 AM
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They deserved this cruise tbh. Or rather, Kimihiko and Siesta definitely needed some much needed time away from the detective scene.

Unfortunately, it looks like this episode isn't just a breather as they got another case. And poor Nagisa being attacked wasn't a pretty sight. On the other hand, it's quite amusing to see Charlotte on this cruise. Kimihiko also didn't forget (probably never will) about what Siesta said to him during their first meeting.
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Sep 5, 2021 6:53 AM
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The whole first part of the episode was just to show how much both Nagisa and Kimizuka relied on Siesta. Kimiazuka being her assistant and Nagisa being the one who has inherited Siesta's heart. We also got to see a bit of Charlotte.

Natsunagi has been kidnapped and it seems like the ones who are behind this are none other than Chameleon and now it's up to Kimizuka to make a choice who to save, Nagisa or everyone out there. In the end, Kimizuka does care about Nagisa and the life that Siesta has given her.
Sep 5, 2021 6:59 AM
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Damn Natsunagi got kidnapped on the boat by Chameleon, he's still really annoying, well of course Kimizuka won't abandon her
Sep 5, 2021 7:05 AM
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Kimi vs Chameleon huh...Things are getting real interesting...well I like the suspense of this show...that said this was a good episode^^
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Sep 5, 2021 7:14 AM
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Well guess who got kidnapped? The cruise was supposed to be a well deserved break, but what have you know, someone gets kidnapped. Seems like kimizuka has made peace with siesta's demise and having the one who bears her heart next to him, as he saved her.
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Sep 5, 2021 7:32 AM
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Natsunagi acts all big and mighty only to get kidnapped and prove her uselessness.
Sep 5, 2021 8:00 AM
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Things went back as they were from the back story episodes in a cruise ship as well looks elegant glad Yui gave them a ride

And they met Char who I wasn't expecting but I had a feeling they might see her, A bequest from Siesta I wonder what that could be in the ship

Surprisingly Chameleon appeared at the deck, I'm sure that it couldn't be Yui's left eye but another item that they're after I don't really know what's happening to be honest here.
Sep 5, 2021 8:01 AM
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this is a dumpster fire I can't tear away myself from. I have even less reason to watch with Siesta gone.
Sep 5, 2021 8:07 AM
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My faith in this anime is already dead.
Sep 5, 2021 8:14 AM

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An ambush on a ship is a logical choice for SPES. Here we have lively Saikawa, blushy Natsunagi and a ludomaniac Charlotte. And all this under the supervision of an eternal detective's helper Kimizuka. Some backstory here, some backstory there and Natsunagi is in danger of being killed by a slick alien who wants an unknown unfound and unimaginable legacy of Siesta.

Words are said, shots are fired, but the continuation will be in the next episode.
Sep 5, 2021 8:17 AM

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So Natsunagi captured by Chameleon. And they just wanted to have a relaxing vacation…
In all honesty though, I feel as if the producers/authors thought that we would get more attached to Siesta from the previous arc or something and feel sad when she was mentioned again but it doesn’t seem to be working unfortunately. The plot seems to not be going to a true/final goal imo unfortunately and it’s been quite disappointing. Getting ready for a very rushed ending or bad ending I guess.
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Sep 5, 2021 8:20 AM
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The episode had a great start, but as it went along the undesired things started. Well now it's only upto kimizuka to choose all, nagisa or a different option in whole.
Sep 5, 2021 8:42 AM

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So much for Natsunagi as a legendary detective, got kidnapped by chameleon and now it's a choice between her and the passengers that Kimizuka has to choose from and obviously he would go for Natsunagi.

Now to see how they will wrap this up in remaining 2 episodes.
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Sep 5, 2021 8:42 AM
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Oh yeah, I completely forgot about Natsunagi and the idol girl.
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Sep 5, 2021 9:05 AM
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It's getting much boring for me.
Sep 5, 2021 9:06 AM

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Ah, we're back in present times. What a coincidence, one of Siesta's bequests is on the cruise ship as well. Well, shoot, Chameleon decides to make an appearance again. Heh, Nagisa is captured with her life on the line and, Yui and Kimuzka just decide to have a nice, swell conversation. Kimizuka's speech was epic and all that but, he really could've just shot chameleon in the first place.
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Sep 5, 2021 9:18 AM

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All they wanted was a nice relaxing cruise but nope Chameleon showed up again to cause trouble.
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Sep 5, 2021 9:22 AM

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Glad that they are finally back to the present, at least Natsunagi has more personality than Siesta who was completely bland (even if she's useless).

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Sep 5, 2021 9:53 AM

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Kimi is one of the most boring mc I have ever seen in my life, even his character design is boring, every time he talks it puts me to sleep, overall this episode was just really boring, and the final scene well they need a better director because those supposed thrilling scenes aren't very thrilling at all.
Sep 5, 2021 10:16 AM

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Might get flack for this but it needs to be said... Nagisa > Siesta *shrug*

I'm sorry she's just a better character then Siesta is and imo better looking as well.
This episode was one of the most interesting ones in a while. Not saying I didnt like seeing what happened to Siesta but it was so anti-climatic and nothing was answered in regards to Alice.

Pretty sure Siestas Bequest has something to do with Kimizuka. Like keeping him safe or something like that.
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Sep 5, 2021 10:53 AM

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Glad that they are finally back to the present, at least Natsunagi has more personality than Siesta who was completely bland (even if she's useless).

I may get hate for this but siesta legit felt like a waifu bait if i were to describe she was like bland gender bend version of L with some weird powers
Sep 5, 2021 10:58 AM

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Maou_heika said:
Glad that they are finally back to the present, at least Natsunagi has more personality than Siesta who was completely bland (even if she's useless).

I may get hate for this but siesta legit felt like a waifu bait if i were to describe she was like bland gender bend version of L with some weird powers
Please don't insult L's intelligence by comparing him to a wannabe detective like Siesta. Death Note is well written despite having a supernatural aspect where as with this anime, Siesta just has to say something and it becomes the truth, the anime doesn't even bother to explain the supernatural aspect well.

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Sep 5, 2021 11:01 AM

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Maou_heika said:
AnimeFA78N said:

I may get hate for this but siesta legit felt like a waifu bait if i were to describe she was like bland gender bend version of L with some weird powers
Please don't insult L's intelligence by comparing him to a wannabe detective like Siesta. Death Note is well written despite having a supernatural aspect where as with this anime, Siesta just has to say something and it becomes the truth, the anime doesn't even bother to explain the supernatural aspect well.

Oh yes my bad also this light novel legit a monogatari or bunny senpai wannabe and failing horrendously at that imo
Sep 5, 2021 11:38 AM

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How this turned into an 8 day cruise, I don't know, but we can't see Siesta in bikini anymore so it's not worth it

Why after they kidnapped Siesta's legacy, they play such a happy song ahahha, I couldn't help but laugh 😂

What a pain in the ass man, just because I have the blood of an astronaut, I won't be an astronaut, I'll still fucking love anime xd
Sep 5, 2021 12:08 PM

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At this point, the inheritors of Siesta's organs to both Nagisa and Yui...seems to me like they're fighting waifu wars instead of ACTUALLY solving detective cases. And don't get me started on Kimizuka being one of the worst stalemate MCs I've ever seen.

It's back to the present day...with the 8 day cruise journey with Kimizuka, Nagisa and Yui...and Charlotte? She seems sus just being there while the others are really there for recreation. Siesta's bequest, aside of an ultimate goal to take on and eliminate SPES, Siesta literally forcing that onto Kimizuka to forever be her sidekick, what a curse.

It does not take long for SPES to infiltrate the cruise ship from the likes of Chameleon, and he demands that same bequest. Yui giving Kimizuka her idol pep talk for a change, and I can't say that I liked that mood change when Kimizuka is independently being hard on himself, forgetting that Nagisa and Yui are together with him.

I literally forgot that Chameleon's VA is the same VA as TenSura's Demon Lord Clayman, so it makes sense for evil to triumph. Oh well, my attention span for this show has already sunk rock-bottom. And so the proposition: either save Nagisa or the rest of the people on the cruise, and Kimizuka has to make a decision since Siesta's loss. Seriously though, step up your game Kimizuka.
Sep 5, 2021 12:46 PM

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how did they manage to make every episode worse than the one before it?
Sep 5, 2021 1:03 PM
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Nagisa >> Siesta. She just is.
Sep 5, 2021 1:49 PM
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wait are natsunagi and the HAL 9000 chick the same person?!?!
Sep 5, 2021 2:37 PM

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hahah this episode was so bad till the point it became funny and that gunshot sound was so awful


Sep 5, 2021 3:06 PM

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wait are natsunagi and the HAL 9000 chick the same person?!?!


I think it's possible because the lack of surgery scar on Nagisa's chest bugs the shit out of me. That's gotta be intentional at this point....
Sep 5, 2021 3:39 PM

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I can't believe that after all of these years they still haven't been able to get rid of such an annoying adversary. Their complacency inadvertently allowed Chameleon's character to devolve into that of a mere plot device whose only purpose is to insert ham-fisted conflict in an attempt to stave off boredom (which, in my opinion, has not worked). At this point, my only reason for watching is in anticipation of the clusterfuck that'll be the final episode forum thread after the "ending" of this anime.
Sep 5, 2021 4:10 PM
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So, they really skip everything happened before and straight goin to the present time of them? Like, wtf? I don't really care about Nagisa monologue in the first. Its really feel non-existent. At this point, the episode will be better if this is a special for the fanservice only. Cute swimsuit for the win, yo! I don't really care about the story and plot anymore. Cause its make me even more tire than before, especially hearing Kimi boring word of lines. 'This is absurd'. Yes, this and you were the real absurd one. No thanks. Char not even get a proper appearance. They only show how dumb she was when gambling in tears, giving a little brief, and then vanished doin her own things. Then what happen with that Sherlock Holmes book? Hilarious change name, its make me scream in an agony. Then suddenly there's Chameleon on the board, out of their shit head. Can they make a proper cliffhanger than that pointing gun bullshit? No? Fine. Next!
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Sep 5, 2021 5:58 PM
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Characters new on the ship with Kimihiko are talking about Siesta and show some cool moments about this two, The chameleon appearing he must have some purpose for doing all that, and I hope the next episode has fights is with great animation.
Sep 5, 2021 7:06 PM
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As Natsunagi was walking down the street in the beginning, I was hoping that she would get hit by a truck and removed from the series. She is that vapid, self aggrandizing, and annoying.
1. She has Siesta's heart so that makes her a Legendary Detective in her mind. I hope that more of Siesta's organs didn't get donated or we will have a bunch of Legendary Detectives by that thought process.
2. She has no plan or clue on how to fight SPES. She just buys a new swimsuit and yells at everyone that she Is Serious!

This whole cruise was a melting pot of I Am the One to Carry on Siesta's Legacy! All the characters keep telling each other how they are the really serious one to do the job. Charlotte is the only one who actually got on the ship on purpose to hunt down SPES. Everyone else is on their by accident. Props to Charlotte for being more involved in detective work than the other so called Detectives and Assistants.
Sep 5, 2021 7:18 PM
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Male MC once again relying on his main secret power:

Cringe speech that causes monsters and villains to wait patiently until he's ready for his next 200 IQ move.
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Sep 5, 2021 7:44 PM
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Kimi vs Chameleon huh...Things are getting real interesting...well I like the suspense of this show...that said this was a good episode^^
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Sep 5, 2021 10:10 PM
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I'm glad that siesta died. Why she didn't die sooner in order that those simp drop this. Hope after this ep they disappear.
I go to this forum to see review but only see siesta this, siesta that, the show without siesta is this, that, the character beside siesta is trash,...ppl didn't let the imperfect to improve. wanna watch sole FMC and MC ? then go watching some romance or other. I feel bad with other character that author created.
Sep 6, 2021 1:57 AM
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I have lost my faith that it'll get interesting at this point. As long as Siesta is in the screen, it is watchable. Rest are just meh. Disappointed.
Sep 6, 2021 3:01 AM
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Yeah this is bad. Why is everyone rolling with Natsunagi being a "legendary detective"? She has literally done fuck all but hey who cares, she has bad past and an organ which is mind you allegedly siesta's so she is a detective.
Kimizuka shooting at chameleon, I'm pretty sure guns don't work on that guy in the first place or else why would he even consider his threats if he could just shoot him. And then if guns don't work why did he shoot? Oh well guess I can't wait for next week's plot-armor filled explanation.

Sep 6, 2021 3:50 AM
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idk, they just failed to make me interested in any other character besides the dead one.


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Sep 6, 2021 9:30 AM

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Yay budget siesta is back (Natsunagi) along with annoying generic eye patch girl. Id love to know what makes Natsunagi a legendary detective as I'm yet to see her solve a single case.

MC is as bland as ever and his only special power is literally a gun. Two more episodes of this nonsense left.
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I fell asleep in the second part of the episode but the first part was pretty interesting. Nice to see the yellow-thicc-suit-girl again. Seems like she got some problems on her hands and it has to do something with Siesta. Of course, the dead character is still relevant. Anyway, alright episode.


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Sep 6, 2021 2:31 PM
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At this point I’m only watching for the off chance we see Takehito Koyasu in action.
Sep 6, 2021 5:45 PM

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natsunagi bro😭😭 "she doesnt know what ive been through 😔😡😓" well that also goes the other way around, you dont know what She's been through

"ill become a legendary detective too..!!" instantly gets kidnapped after getting upset bc she thought her crush asked her out LMFAOO what even is this drama you could've at least made it bad in a cliche shoujo way what is This
Sep 7, 2021 2:48 AM
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This anime is just ok...not great
Sep 7, 2021 4:46 AM
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Today's theme is overdependence on their past, Nagisa & Kimi chained to Siesta, and Saikawa to her parents/eye. Nice at least Char isn't full retard, brought the concern to Kimi, and Saikawa had the realization already.
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Sep 7, 2021 6:16 AM

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Natsunagi gets captured by Chameleon. I'm guessing Char is going to enter the fight next episode
Sep 7, 2021 1:19 PM
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Glad we'll be done with this crap in 2 more episodes. I kept wishing this would get better, but week after week it just seems to get worse. Shoulda dropped this weeks ago tbh.
Sep 7, 2021 3:30 PM
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My only problem with the show is the weird time jumps we start with the past, then go to the present, then go to the past again, then go to the present whilst the plot line in the past freezes, then go to the past again and now we're in the present, I would've wanted them to stay in the past and then go to the present, without jumping back and forth between the two...
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HAHAHA This really became boring HAHAHA
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