| Red_Salmon (5): Lucian Roy, Shinichi-Kun, ironace, AlbertinoDias, The_Pyromaani Is this the order from left to right as of people who voted the train? So Roy, then shin, and etc...? @Grapefruit21 |
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Should i have add sobs to make me look more sad? I previously said i dont like no lynch since it doesnt give information. Since it didnt happen i just said no lynch it is ^^ |
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LucianRoy said: AbuHumaid said: there's no better lynch now imo, we need a lynch asap. Also how am i sheeping you but the people who jumped on Red's train not sheeping you? Everyone except maybe shin sheeped me. That also includes you now. I recommend a quick look-back on the thread. Why do you want to quicklynch? Of course because it puts town in a bad position and it causes town to make mores mistakes. I mean obviously thats what your probably gunna say, but I also am thinking the same thing. He didnt talk much, but now is so eager to lynch someone. |
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lastwhisper31 said: Red_Salmon (5): Lucian Roy, Shinichi-Kun, ironace, AlbertinoDias, The_Pyromaani Is this the order from left to right as of people who voted the train? So Roy, then shin, and etc...? Yea! It's in the order of who voted first (Cuz I remember Lucian was the first to vote on me) Shinichi-Kun said: @aa-dono @ironace @AlbertinoDias @Togs @Gwendolly @lastwhisper31 @AbuHumaid @Sleipnirr @Wen294 @The_Pyromaani @Red_Salmon @Shinichi-Kun @LucianRoy @Zymf Where everyone go I have so much time to talk Btw Lucian are u going to play live mafia cause if so hop on discord I'm here now. Writing a defense. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: 354 I mean it's kind of sketchy when u finally leave RVs 2 hours before phase change. Even as a new player you should always track where your vote is and keep updating the reasons as of why its there. I unvote at #144. Wasn't sure if I had earlier so unvoted again instead of finding the vote and notifying grapefruit. 371 Who do u think mafia are if they're playing the lurking game? Also you said you wanted to vote lucian but hes not lurking even the slighest. Maybe Abu, maybe togs, maybe dono. Who knows. Can't be sure if they're scum unless they post right? I wanted to vote him at first, yes! My reasoning was that he might be power-wolfing. Suddenly changing focus from himself to lastwhisper once he saw a train forming on him. Problem with Salmon is he is flip floppy, on a second note I am like that every game so its hard for me to vote him just on that. Honestly before the last few hours of the game red was pretty absent, and he even dissapeared right before the EOD. How confident waas he? As for the 'flip flop' -iness; must I stick to my original reads and never change them at all? Will that make me more town? I would've defended EOD if I saw Lucian's case on me to be strong. But it wasn't. I was surprised he managed to effectively develop a whole mob |
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| Allow me to breakdown Lucian's argument against me LucianRoy said: @Suzune-chan @Gwendolly @Laswhisper31 @Zymf @Wen294 Vote por favor. --- The_Pyromaani said: Also wai u think Salmon is scum= I don't think he is town because when I called him out for post 354, he tried to defuse the conflict by reading me town instead of addressing why I voted him, he also backtracked on his words because he clearly says he was considering voting me in one post (354), and then says I'm town in the next (361). I feel like town would be more conclusive in their reads, especially on someone like myself. He also has no scumreads and did not revote. This doesn't show motivation to solve the game, and could be cautious scum. I merely answered your inquiry about why did I change my view on you (which I had explained in 354) There was no backtracking. I had town read you in 354 and I elaborated it in 361. You shouldn't be calling it 'defusing the conflict' when the topic of discussion was of me town reading you to begin with. Not cool! |
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The_Pyromaani said: Gwendolly said: looks like it didn't bother you at all Should i have add sobs to make me look more sad? I previously said i dont like no lynch since it doesnt give information. Since it didnt happen i just said no lynch it is ^^ To each their own, but lets look abu, he is using information that I gave him to defend his vote on Salmon. I originally stated that any lynch still works cause it gives info and that can only help but benefit town, and now hes using it to justify his sheep. |
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AbuHumaid said: lastwhisper31 said: I've been saying that since the last game, you didn't bring anything newTo each their own, but lets look abu, he is using information that I gave him to defend his vote on Salmon. I originally stated that any lynch still works cause it gives info and that can only help but benefit town, and now hes using it to justify his sheep. Remember. This game. Not last one. Stay in present day. |
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lastwhisper31 said: Red_Salmon (5): Lucian Roy, Shinichi-Kun, ironace, AlbertinoDias, The_Pyromaani Is this the order from left to right as of people who voted the train? So Roy, then shin, and etc...? @Grapefruit21 I can't vouch that it's a perfect order, but that is the attempt. |
| Live mafia was hilarious today. That Dethy game literally boggled my mind. It's like a tongue twister for your brain, it's so weird. Somewhat salty that Sleiph lynched me as SK in the second game, but I did figure out Logic was the last scum from a tonal read. /back to the game. --- Shinichi-Kun said: But the sheeping was and or is bound to happen do you not understand that, you realll think 8 people are all going to agree on a lynch. Some will be the follows while others the leaders. I didn't call out the other people who sheeped me yesterday, that's because sheeping isn't inherently scummy, it's the reasons why people sheep that make them scummy. Question then do you think this means abu is scum? Also I defend alot of people so what does that say about my alignment? Yes, I do find this scummy coming from Abu because it looks like an excuse for a vote and to phone-in today instead of game-solving and developing reads. You should only defend people if you actually think they're town. Otherwise, how do you know you're not defending scum? Do you have a townread on Abu? --- I can vouch, those votes on the Salmon train are in the correct order. |
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lastwhisper31 said: LucianRoy said: Everyone except maybe shin sheeped me. That also includes you now. I recommend a quick look-back on the thread. Why do you want to quicklynch? Of course because it puts town in a bad position and it causes town to make mores mistakes. I mean obviously thats what your probably gunna say, but I also am thinking the same thing. He didnt talk much, but now is so eager to lynch someone. Does this mean you'll vote him? --- Red_Salmon said: I would've defended EOD if I saw Lucian's case on me to be strong. But it wasn't. I was surprised he managed to effectively develop a whole mob Well, yeah, it was D1, and my reasons for voting you were pretty solid imo. If you're town, who was the scum on your train? --- Red_Salmon said: I merely answered your inquiry about why did I change my view on you (which I had explained in 354) There was no backtracking. I had town read you in 354 and I elaborated it in 361. You shouldn't be calling it 'defusing the conflict' when the topic of discussion was of me town reading you to begin with. Not cool! But you didn't townread me in 354. You list a bunch of reasons why you thought I could be scum, one reason why you thought I could be town, and then say you're considering voting me. How is that a townread on me? |
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| I didn't call out the other people who sheeped me yesterday, that's because sheeping isn't inherently scummy, it's the reasons why people sheep that make them scummy. [Yes, I do find this scummy coming from Abu because it looks like an excuse for a vote and to phone-in today instead of game-solving and developing reads. You should only defend people if you actually think they're town. Otherwise, how do you know you're not defending scum? Two very good points from @LucianRoy, and I see where he comes from when he calls out Shin. I believe sheeping isnt totally scummy, as long you can back up with your owning reasoning a long side theirs. Heres goes Shin saying "Ohh this option seems ok, so let me follow this train." I think we should be taking a look at the train on red salman early day 1, and also Abu who was so eager to start the train on her back up. |
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Also another point, is that posts like this tend to come from mafia, I dont necessarily believe this is true, its just something I read when looking up strategies on how to find scum. |
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The_Pyromaani said: Here again! Oh wow. Suzie got elminated :/ Oh well. Im gonna go backread day 1 again. Another one of these posts..., take what I say with a grain of salt, but Ive read that posts like this are obvious scum, and I dont see a reason a townie to put pressure on themselves. |
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lastwhisper31 said: The_Pyromaani said: Here again! Oh wow. Suzie got elminated :/ Oh well. Im gonna go backread day 1 again. Another one of these posts..., take what I say with a grain of salt, but Ive read that posts like this are obvious scum, and I dont see a reason a townie to put pressure on themselves. If i were scum wai i would but pressure on myself. Doesnt make any sense. |
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The_Pyromaani said: lastwhisper31 said: Another one of these posts..., take what I say with a grain of salt, but Ive read that posts like this are obvious scum, and I dont see a reason a townie to put pressure on themselves. If i were scum wai i would but pressure on myself. Doesnt make any sense. That counter argument makes sense, but it is also possible that not everyone mafia is pro player and doesnt realize all the obvious scum tells. Abu and you dont seem to come off as the most experienced players. |
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lastwhisper31 said: That counter argument makes sense, but it is also possible that not everyone mafia is pro player and doesnt realize all the obvious scum tells. Abu and you dont seem to come off as the most experienced players. I usually let actions speak behalf words. But im fine u thinking that. |
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Suzune-chan said: I think you are the scummy one. Abu I am less decided on. Hmm just thinking what suzies thoughts has been. Suzie is dead and she thought maybe Shinchi is scum. That would bee too obvious if they decided to elminate Suzie because of this but thought to bring this up. |
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The_Pyromaani said: Gwendolly said: looks like it didn't bother you at all Should i have add sobs to make me look more sad? I previously said i dont like no lynch since it doesnt give information. Since it didnt happen i just said no lynch it is ^^ Yes, I want you to be devastated!! ;) I dunno...even if it was predictable, your reaction felt emotionless to me |
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| I'll post more once I get back from work. I wanted to chime in more earlier, cause I do believe we need to come to an earlier consensus unlike day 1, but I got held up in the live mafia game which got pretty intense. |
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lastwhisper31 said: I didn't call out the other people who sheeped me yesterday, that's because sheeping isn't inherently scummy, it's the reasons why people sheep that make them scummy. That doesnt even make sense.... |
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The_Pyromaani said: Suzune-chan said: I think you are the scummy one. Abu I am less decided on. Hmm just thinking what suzies thoughts has been. Suzie is dead and she thought maybe Shinchi is scum. That would bee too obvious if they decided to elminate Suzie because of this but thought to bring this up. She definitely didnt die because of that. I'm guessing it was the complete opposite. To either display Shinichi or just because she was somewhat neutral and there wouldnt be too many suspects. |
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| As for who I think we should lynch this phase. I would need this to be more active. I have my doubts. I'm gonna reread too. |
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Gwendolly said: can't really beat that logic I guess...lastwhisper31 said: I didn't call out the other people who sheeped me yesterday, that's because sheeping isn't inherently scummy, it's the reasons why people sheep that make them scummy. That doesnt even make sense.... |
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Gwendolly said: lastwhisper31 said: I didn't call out the other people who sheeped me yesterday, that's because sheeping isn't inherently scummy, it's the reasons why people sheep that make them scummy. That doesnt even make sense.... Ok, out of context it doesn't make sense, but look at Abu rn. Ask yourself, why did he immediately sheep my vote from yesterday? |
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| So I accidently quoted that extremely badly, I did not say that, Lucian did. I need to fix that when I go on my break. So sorry for the confusion. |
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| @Gwendolly and @LucianRoy. I accidently quoted lucians comment about sheeping, and forgot to actually quote it, so it looks like I wrote it. In my original post, the first paragraph that is bolded was actually said by Lucian. I can't actually fix it while I'm at work. Sorry for the confusion |
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| So I'm not gunna change the post cause that's frowned upon. So I'll clarify that in post #463, the bolded statement, which was also quoted by Gwen was not written by me it was written by Lucian, and I was providing my 2¢ on it. |
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| well guys, i just came back, i'm one of the people that's going to be replaced, i do not have much time and this post may eb my last post so i'll write here all i can the fastest i can because i'm in a hurry, (i'll still be able to post 1 or 2 things but will not be helpful almost 100% certain) i'm really sorry for this but, here i go: 1- i think i was the last on to go on the "train" 2- that train was a complete victory for Lucian, lol he was running the game... and unfortunately, i just noticed it now :/ (why you ask?? well, look 3 and 4 ;) ) 3- i've said that i did not like the way Lucian entered the game, you can look my past post, it's explained why, and my fears were right on point, 4- Vote togs, he will be mafia, you can count on it, and with that, Lucian is also mafia, ( why?? look at 5 :P ) 5- why protect an inactive that many people agreed that he could go away from inactivity?? unless you know his alignment and that would cause you troble?? i mean, i did the math before EOD... he was the best option of a lynch, but Lucian started the train, and people followed him (me included, but i did say that with Salmon support, i would change to togs without a doubt ), because he's controling the game, this is what i got from this lynch, 6- this also concluded that i will not fully support Salmon, but untill i get a replacement, voting her off, will be hard... 7- voting the inactive one would also be the better option because the Salmon case happened very fast and near EOD so, letting her defend herself better day 2 would also be good, because you could build a case that had more proof of her alignment... either be town or mafia, 8- thank you, that is all :) 9- see you next time and live mafia should be hosted on Sunday, i can't play on Saturday :/ :/ :/ |
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| You posted a lot yesterday, especially at EoD, why would you get repped? |
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LucianRoy said: wait is he getting swapped out because of inactivity? If he is then a couple others should toYou posted a lot yesterday, especially at EoD, why would you get repped? |
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lastwhisper31 said: LucianRoy said: wait is he getting swapped out because of inactivity? If he is then a couple others should toYou posted a lot yesterday, especially at EoD, why would you get repped? Who? |
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| soooooooo.....I'm just gonna place this here vote: aa-dono You said you'll type 9 pages? Can't wait to see @Red_Salmon aside from your defence, what do you think of the current situation? @ironace where you at? Didnt you wanna poke salmon and shinichi? |
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LucianRoy said: albertlastwhisper31 said: wait is he getting swapped out because of inactivity? If he is then a couple others should to Who? |
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I think he meant others like who? |
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LucianRoy said: Wait what? Did you just tell Shinichi which of your own interactions he should look more into, in order to sort you. Isn't that quite unorthodox? Shouldn't Shinichi base his read on what he thinks is indicative rather than be swayed by you, who are the one under examination? It's like the drug smuggler telling the border control which pockets to check...Shinichi-Kun said: Still read you both as pretty much null, nothing either of you have done indicates just 1 alignment. Most of the stuff posts by you 2 could come from either alignment. Really? Scum would also most likely give tips but you do it every game so it pretty much is null. Ignore any tips I give, because I do agree, those are NAI. I'm much more interested in your opinion of how I reacted to Sleiph's vote, and the interactions of me and Gwen. Both of which I'd consider fairly alignment indicative things. Shinichi-Kun said: 1. Just general curiosity ^^@Zymf Why did you ask us that question? Also can you elaborate more on that Salmon Read? 2. I'd be happy to elaborate on my town read on Red_Salmon from #252. After the initial fluff in the beginning of the game, Salmon announced early that he "would really want there to be a lynch D1" in #146. This correlates nicely with #178, where he apreciated how lastwhisper "tried to get things on track back on page 2". I also noticed how Salmon tried to progress the game by asking direct questions in both #168 and #181. Then came #185, which is the post I initally responded to. On closer examination I am only more convinced that Salmon really was trying to push the game forward, which in our current situation seem to me like very pro-town. His way of doing it was subtle but sure, which to me makes it genuine pro-townieness and not faked. In #187 however, he is very obviosly trying to rush town by exclamating that there are only 24 hours left, something I feel is fair enough. LucianRoy said: It is wierd how confident you are to be read as townie. Do you always think like this?Shinichi-Kun said: Yes really do you find that strange coming from me? I'm honestly better at scum reading people than town reading, which is why I like to wait till day 2. I just think sorting town in the early game is just as important as figuring out who the scum are. I find it strange because I think I'm obv-towning to help the town in general by being a keystone read, but I suppose I am not doing that. LucianRoy said: If I may add to it as well? I find it slightly scummy, as it would appear he might be breadcrumbing for a later fakeclaim. If he was VT, why did he think his claim would be enough to clear him? If he was actual town PR, why would he put himself on the stand like that with noting to gain?lastwhisper31 said: Good to know im being lynched for town reading, Im gunna have to out my role at this point, I wont have time in the morning to check up on this game . @Gwendolly, Last seems really intent on proving themselves town in this post by claiming pre-emptively. What do you make of it? wen294 said: Why lol :P - I'm fine with you guys referencing my game so much xD (but tbh, I agree..)And yeah we could do without all these psycho pass game references. xD I think it was like that last game as well ._. AlbertinoDias said: Well, I'm sorry but that's how it is when I'm busy IRL. I don't have the opportunity to stay up to date throughout the day, so instead I compensate by making long catch-up posts when I do get time. Right now I am backreading from page 5 while it's 2AM at night. Also, since this is a game, I direct questions to whom I like, not to whom it would be most "polite".well from the Togs topic, he disappears in page 3, and never comes back, after that he is called 1 time from Luci in the post #193, he never answers the question, and this time it can't be because you/we did not give him enough time.... that's bad, but we have more people like that, people that were not looked into that much, like: aa-dono (we know why, it's unfortunate, but if you really want to cut someone inactive.... ); Zymf, she has 3 posts in the entire game!!! 1 on page 3 and the other on page 6 (will the next one be on page 9?? xD) btw to support this one, he asked me a question, i answered it and he talked about that again, to someone else... and shove it up when he goes straight away for what he is good at... while this answer my re-post, it isn't directed to me... i personally do not like that, and... Shinichi-Kun said: Why would something like this be a problem? In that case there would be plenty to gain in terms of VCA on Day 2. The problem with a quick togs vote is it guarantees a somewhat easy place for scum to hide on don't you think? Don't be so affraid of the mafia's sheeping or bussing - Let them do it and then catch them afterwards. AlbertinoDias said: This post is scummy. Trying to validate a mislynch and change of trains just by counting the numbers and not by suspicion.and i just saw we have less then 50min... i think we won't be able to get 8 people together unless we go for togs, the 3 that are voting for the fish, + me + the fish itself make 5 people, + the one on togs already it makes 6 people... we would still need 2 more, if we go for the fish you'll just have 4 votes and need to 4 more poeple get online, like right now... well, with pyro here now, it is 1 more for togs and 3 more for the fish :P (yea i know i'm calling you fish) P.S added the pyro part (In other words: If Salmon is lynched, you will town credit from your attempt to change the votes to Togs. If Togs is lynched, it was not your fault, it was the numbers.) Also, you are obviously trying to pocket Lucian. Finished backreading D1 From end of day 1 I town read Red_Salmon even more. I liked the tone in all of Salmon's posts on page 8. 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| Quick reads list: Town: Gwendolly and Red_Salmon Good feeling: wen294 Neutral: LucianRoy, lastwhisper31 Bad feeling: Shinichi-kun Scum: AlbertinoDias, AbuHumaid Haven't paid attention to (null): aa-dono, ironace, Togs, Sleipnirr, The_Pyromaani Edit: Changed Shinichi and AbuHumaid's placement and removed "based on D1" |
ZymfJul 29, 2017 6:16 PM
Zymf said: Quick reads list based on D1: Town: Gwendolly and Red_Salmon Good feeling: Shinichi-kun, wen294 Neutral: LucianRoy, lastwhisper31 Scum: AlbertinoDias, Haven't paid attention to (null): aa-dono, ironace, Togs, AbuHumaid, Sleipnirr, The_Pyromaani Ahh yes, the classic neutral read on me. After you analyzed so many of my posts. --- Believe it or not, I'm still ok with lynching Salmon. Vote: Red Salmon |
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Zymf said: Wait what? Did you just tell Shinichi which of your own interactions he should look more into, in order to sort you. Isn't that quite unorthodox? Shouldn't Shinichi base his read on what he thinks is indicative rather than be swayed by you, who are the one under examination? It's like the drug smuggler telling the border control which pockets to check... Yes, I did. We both think it's NAI so I said I agreed with him. I'm much more confident I can be town read by pretty much anything else I've done in the game. It is wierd how confident you are to be read as townie. Do you always think like this? Confidence is sexy imo. LucianRoy said: If I may add to it as well? I find it slightly scummy, as it would appear he might be breadcrumbing for a later fakeclaim. If he was VT, why did he think his claim would be enough to clear him? If he was actual town PR, why would he put himself on the stand like that with noting to gain?@Gwendolly, Last seems really intent on proving themselves town in this post by claiming pre-emptively. What do you make of it? I thought it was townie because he seemed like he really didn't want to be the D1 lynch and was defending himself the best he could at that time. It was subjective, but in context of that stage in the game, I think it makes more sense. It's still could go both ways, I'm I'm leaning town on last for other reasons rn. He just hasn't seemed to have done anything yet today. From end of day 1 I town read Red_Salmon even more. I liked the tone in all of Salmon's posts on page 8. Meanwhile he was getting a relatively large train from everyone just sheeping Lucian, probably with a few scum in the midst. What about his tone? |
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LucianRoy said: Vote: AbuHumaid Why are you sheeping me? Expecting I was going to pick up where I left off? Yup, he is definitely sheeping you hard >.> LucianRoy said: If you have your own reasons for voting someone that others voted for, then it's not sheeping anymore.I didn't call out the other people who sheeped me yesterday, that's because sheeping isn't inherently scummy, it's the reasons why people sheep that make them scummy. Sheeping is what lazy people do when they don't want to scumhunt but rather just follow the flow, and the people who'd want to do that is scum. LucianRoy said: Zymf said: This should be compared with Shinichi's scum and town meta I guess. How do you plan for this to happen? I was hoping someone else felt like doing it or at least pitch in xD I can't really remember anyones meta good enough to base reads on, except grrr. Shinichi-Kun said: Not entirely. It has become a Named Townie.figured as much that there wasn't going to be a lynch, the problem is if people wait till the last minute then the chances of actually have 8 people on at the same time is very slim. Also not used to seeing suzune get night kiilled on night 1, guessing that means the other mason has pretty much become vanilla. I will have to look more into Lucian's initial reason for suspecting Salmon. If it holds water, I might have to back down from my town read. If it doesn't hold water, the players who sheeped Lucian is scummy, especially AbuHumaid. But since it is currently 3:30 AM and I have to get up at 7:00, that will have to wait untill sometime tomorrow afternoon :P Vote change: AlbertinoDias Time left: 11 Hours, 30 Minuttes WAIT WHAT!? Days are only 24 hours now?? In that case we need to start consolidating votes now! I nominate AlbertinoDias, AbuHumaid, Shinichi-kun and I guess Red_Salmon... - I'll leave it up to you, goodnight x.x Edit: I looked at the wrong timer... We have 1 Day, 12 Hours and 15 minuttes :p |
ZymfJul 29, 2017 6:42 PM
| @lucianRoy, what do you think of Zymfs read on you and also Red_salmon? @grapefruit21, so im assuming Togs is also getting a replacement? @shinichi-kun What do you think of abu currently, and also pyro? @Zymf Why do you think so many people town read Lucian? lol Im going to wait for Alberts replacement before I start actively accusing him, honestly for me its hard to understand half the stuff he says. |
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Red_Salmon said: Shinichi-Kun said: 354 I mean it's kind of sketchy when u finally leave RVs 2 hours before phase change. Even as a new player you should always track where your vote is and keep updating the reasons as of why its there. I unvote at #144. Wasn't sure if I had earlier so unvoted again instead of finding the vote and notifying grapefruit. 371 Who do u think mafia are if they're playing the lurking game? Also you said you wanted to vote lucian but hes not lurking even the slighest. Maybe Abu, maybe togs, maybe dono. Who knows. Can't be sure if they're scum unless they post right? I wanted to vote him at first, yes! My reasoning was that he might be power-wolfing. Suddenly changing focus from himself to lastwhisper once he saw a train forming on him. Problem with Salmon is he is flip floppy, on a second note I am like that every game so its hard for me to vote him just on that. Honestly before the last few hours of the game red was pretty absent, and he even dissapeared right before the EOD. How confident waas he? As for the 'flip flop' -iness; must I stick to my original reads and never change them at all? Will that make me more town? I would've defended EOD if I saw Lucian's case on me to be strong. But it wasn't. I was surprised he managed to effectively develop a whole mob Hmm even if that was a hosts mistake if I am held accountable for my forgetfulness even you should be. On day 1 its hard to form a powerful case, if this was a normal setup you would have been lynched. Also it depends on the flip flop, if you read someone as town but then scum read them in the next post people are gonna start asking questions. Sure its possible they're scum but 2 of them are known to lurk and the other said she might not be able to make the post count. |
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AbuHumaid said: lastwhisper31 said: I've been saying that since the last game, you didn't bring anything newTo each their own, but lets look abu, he is using information that I gave him to defend his vote on Salmon. I originally stated that any lynch still works cause it gives info and that can only help but benefit town, and now hes using it to justify his sheep. I still kinda disagree that its sheeping, I highly doubt if we actually lock a lynch today that all 8 people will have their own separate reasons and cases built. Yes a lynch is well needed at this part, so it's possible that scum will sheep, but it's also possible town will sheep to make sure the lynch doesn't fail. I've changed my vote to make sure lynches go through many times before. |
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I think he's hesitant to mark me as scum because he wants to avoid conflict with someone like me. I also think he's showing paranoia of my apparent power-wolf scum meta. Does this make him town? No Does this make him scum? Not really. Neutral reads tend to be NAI, but in the context of me, someone who was probably one of the more active players yesterday, I am quite surprised Zymf hasn't sorted me, (although we did NL D1). Is this in and of itself scummy? Quite possibly. Does it hold water? Not always, but it can be telling on certain players, take you D1 of the morning after for instance. Neutral read both Logic and me. In hindsight, that in and of itself was indeed scummy, the reasoning you gave obfuscated the fact. I think his town read on Salmon is unsubstantial. Reading solely off tone doesn't cut it for someone who was 3 votes from lynch D1 imo. I don't like his vote nor his scumread on roberto either. I don't see him blatantly pocketing me, nor do I feel pocketed. However, Alberto strikes me as new, and his want to lynch togs didn't seem like an attempt to defend salmon. That said, I still do not understand why he wanted to lynch a player who was inactive for a majority of the day, and who had less votes. He didn't really show anything compelling to lynch Togs at EoD, so what did he expect? This kind of naivete I could possibly see coming from new-town. Is Alberto showing actual paranoia of my apparent power-wolf meta which he seems to be so wary of? Why is he wary of my play in general? His hypotheticals are, indeed, trying to discredit me by saying I was "trying to protect togs" in post 480 which is kinda hypocritical coming from him because he was the only one who wanted to lynch togs at EoD1. Too scummy to be scum is a fallacy, but if Alberto was really trying to discredit me as scum, why is he not voting me? Why does he think he's getting repped if he was here earlier today and was active? As scum, what does he look to gain by giving us his thoughts before he thinks he'll be replaced? Why does he not want to vote Salmon again as stated in 480? Did his read on Salmon change in the past 24 hours? Did he ever have a read on Salmon? Does any of this play make sense coming from scum? Does any of this play make sense coming from town? Alberto is an unknown. I'm ok at reading new town, conversely I'm bad at reading new-scum. This doesn't strike me as new-town, yet the inexperience makes me wary if I should be reading it as bad play, or actual scummy reasoning. I'd be okay lynching him, but I think I have something better on Salmon. Abu and Zymf are names I'd look at in the event Salmon flips town. Shin too probably. With lynching Alberto, all It would do was give insight to Zymf rn. I don't see it as the countertrain atm, but it could very well end up as one. Salmon lynch is a Juicier train too because we have two days of voting to look back at. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Psst Dont tell that to lucianAbuHumaid said: I've been saying that since the last game, you didn't bring anything new I still kinda disagree that its sheeping, I highly doubt if we actually lock a lynch today that all 8 people will have their own separate reasons and cases built. Yes a lynch is well needed at this part, so it's possible that scum will sheep, but it's also possible town will sheep to make sure the lynch doesn't fail. I've changed my vote to make sure lynches go through many times before. |
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LucianRoy said: Live mafia was hilarious today. That Dethy game literally boggled my mind. It's like a tongue twister for your brain, it's so weird. Somewhat salty that Sleiph lynched me as SK in the second game, but I did figure out Logic was the last scum from a tonal read. /back to the game. --- Shinichi-Kun said: But the sheeping was and or is bound to happen do you not understand that, you realll think 8 people are all going to agree on a lynch. Some will be the follows while others the leaders. I didn't call out the other people who sheeped me yesterday, that's because sheeping isn't inherently scummy, it's the reasons why people sheep that make them scummy. Question then do you think this means abu is scum? Also I defend alot of people so what does that say about my alignment? Yes, I do find this scummy coming from Abu because it looks like an excuse for a vote and to phone-in today instead of game-solving and developing reads. You should only defend people if you actually think they're town. Otherwise, how do you know you're not defending scum? Do you have a townread on Abu? --- I can vouch, those votes on the Salmon train are in the correct order. Would it have made a difference if those sheeping votes helped cause the lynch to pass? As for Abu alignment it's possible he's scum but ive never really been able to figure out the mentality of his actions before. Hmm I get what ya mean slightly, your annoyed that instead of trying to figure out the game state he literally came in just continue sheeping from the last phase. Ik it's a bad habit, but i've seen town did themselves in deep holes trying to defend themselves before leading to Mis lynches. |
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