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Mar 24, 2021 8:39 AM
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You know what I mean. Fans that became fans when anime started exploding recently in the west past few years.

Like sports fans, they become "fans" of the best team, lots of people hate them.(was a Lakers fan since 2005 to)

I can proudly say I was a fan since I was like 12 in like 2004. Back then they even had a anime channel on cable you can sub to.
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Mar 24, 2021 8:47 AM
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Not terrible, but I mean, it sucks because it's the same people who used to get on me for watching it, so I find that pretty hilarious and ironic.
Mar 24, 2021 8:48 AM
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It’s great because it expands the industry more but at the same time bad because more haters come.
Mar 24, 2021 8:50 AM
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I don't think it matters. Even if they're watching it to be "trendy" or w/e, they're still checking out the medium that we love and giving it some attention.

Also, someone watching and enjoying very popular anime first is only natural. Super popular shows are much easier to access in the west.
Mar 24, 2021 8:50 AM
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I think they are completely fine, as, at the end of the day, the more anime fans there are, the more revenue anime generates, and hence more the anime (and potentially higher quality anime) that can be produced. If there were no 'anime bandwagon fans,' anime would be substantially less popular, and there would hence be less of them (smaller target market). Looking down on them would simply mean having a superiority complex, and is therefore pretty pitiful imo.
Mar 24, 2021 8:51 AM
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I guess I'm one of them since I started watching anime like 9 months ago.
Mar 24, 2021 8:53 AM
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Don't really have an opinion. I'm more concerned about bigoted Nazis who fetishize Japan so much they think they hold authority over who gets to experience their country and products or interact with their people. That is really unhealthy.

This thing callled bandwagon anime fan is just an overblown meme. As if there is "right way" when and how to get into anime. And even if you want to take it serious, as in some people genuinely only get into it to seem cool, the anime community itself is at fault for idolizing people (including themselves) who are into anime. Absolutely simping over any celebrity when they express interest in anime, no matter how little.
Mar 24, 2021 8:55 AM
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I for one became an anime fan last year, but not because people were saying "this is the next best thing" or because it got popular.

I never really paid attention to anything anime related. I thought it was weird until I watched it and realized it was good.

If you consider a bandwagon anime fan anyone who started watching recently, then that would put me in the group. I like myself so I gotta say bandwagoner's are great.


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Mar 24, 2021 8:57 AM
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i've been watching anime since '95 but there are others who have been watching way before that. everyone has to start at some point. not fair to assume they joined the bandwagon.
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Mar 24, 2021 8:58 AM

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I feel like you have to improve your definition of anime bandwagonner. I'm a 2000 kid, and in France where I was born, anime already had a mainstream popularity in the 90s so I technically qualify as a bandwagonner because when I started watching anime, everyone in school knew about Pokemon, Dragon Ball, Naruto, Fairy Tail, Bleach, One Piece and many more.

However, if we talk about those who pretend to be fans of a certain anime only to complain about fanservice, sexualization of the female characters and send death threats to the author/staff when something happens that they don't like, then yeah those guys are annoying.
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Mar 24, 2021 9:37 AM

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I think it sucks in a way, but I don't really care about it. On the other hand, I think it's a good phenomena because from a bunch of bandwagon fans, a couple can turn into real fans and follow the scene even after an eventual trend has passed.
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Mar 24, 2021 10:08 AM
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Our generation consists of "bandwagon fans" too, since most of us became anime fans through the anime we have seen on western tv channels. Anime has been mainstream since the 90s, just saying...

What's up with this stupid gatekeeping everywhere in fandoms? Do people feel better about themselves then or what?
Mar 24, 2021 10:14 AM

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You guys associate every bad problem with just new fans when I have seen plenty of toxicity from even the Toonami generation. Honestly we were also "bandwagon fans" coming in when Naruto was hot an on TV/internet compared to the dudes having to browse for a knock off DB VHS. It just died off again and restarted.
Mar 24, 2021 10:17 AM

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Annoying they usually have dogshit opionions on everything and think watching the entirety of naruto makes them knowledgeable on anything


Mar 24, 2021 10:32 AM

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BilboBaggins365 said:
You guys associate every bad problem with just new fans when I have seen plenty of toxicity from even the Toonami generation. Honestly we were also "bandwagon fans" coming in when Naruto was hot an on TV/internet compared to the dudes having to browse for a knock off DB VHS. It just died off again and restarted.


This doesn't count as the toonami generation.
https://youtu.be/YHfJiZTtGEA
Mar 24, 2021 10:33 AM

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Kayle_x_Morgana said:
You know what I mean. Fans that became fans when anime started exploding recently in the west past few years.

Like sports fans, they become "fans" of the best team, lots of people hate them.(was a Lakers fan since 2005 to)

I can proudly say I was a fan since I was like 12 in like 2004. Back then they even had a anime channel on cable you can sub to.
So you are claiming you are an elite, and recent anime watchers are trend-fags. Hence, you are another one of toxic elite-fags.
Mar 24, 2021 10:34 AM

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Kayle_x_Morgana said:
BilboBaggins365 said:
You guys associate every bad problem with just new fans when I have seen plenty of toxicity from even the Toonami generation. Honestly we were also "bandwagon fans" coming in when Naruto was hot an on TV/internet compared to the dudes having to browse for a knock off DB VHS. It just died off again and restarted.


This doesn't count as the toonami generation.
https://youtu.be/YHfJiZTtGEA


Yeah it does lol the only people who even bother to watch Toonami are those that grew up on it. The average new zoomer gets into anime through streaming. I guarantee if you go to most of them they don't know what it is. Hey I only knew about it through talking to others about when they first got into anime and because I follow some older fans.
Mar 24, 2021 10:35 AM

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I think it's beautiful they're finding something enjoyable to them they wouldn't of otherwise known about. People that gatekeep are far worse
Mar 24, 2021 10:39 AM

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Pride of older anime fans on this site is way too much. Gatekeeping anime is the new trend I guess, but then again it's just this puny minority like the op and everyone else who agreed.
Mar 24, 2021 10:51 AM

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You know what I mean. Fans that became fans when anime started exploding recently in the west past few years.

that's not......bandwagoning though?


Bandwagon is when you go into something specifically only to fit in/be accepted despite having no interest in the actual thing. Or, when you show support/following only when something is being successful (as is the case with sports)


Becoming a fan of anime because it gained popularity in the west isn't necessarily bandwagoning lmao. wtf is this asinine elitist gatekeeping shit lol?
Mar 24, 2021 11:02 AM

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As far as I'm concerned the bandwagon has been going strong for about 20-25 years and growing into a full-size train over that time period. At least since Dragon Ball and Pokemon and Spirited Away winning an Oscar. I just happened to be born early enough to get in on it at the start. But it's the same train no matter when you got on.

Anime 'exploding recently' is just a result of literally everything 'exploding' because of the internet. Any hobby or interest you had before that will seem like it 'exploded' during that time period because of how much the internet accelerated and multiplied exposure and interactions in almost every domain. Younger Fans didn't choose to be born during that era so it's silly to resent them for it. It just is what it is.
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Mar 24, 2021 11:56 AM
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"Bandwagonning" is a bit unwarranted, don't you think? Not like you can be "too late" to get into anime because its popularity may be increasing. My beef is with "fans" (some of which might be new) that only start drama and label people with "-ist" or "-phobe" words.

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Mar 24, 2021 12:09 PM

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I believe they are rather limiting themselves to newer anime series rather than watching a variety of series, especially the older series most anime fans tend to forget. I like watching more obscure series, it is more interesting than just following the crowd and watching what THEY want you to watch!
Mar 24, 2021 12:10 PM

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And? What's so bad about that...? It means there's more people who like the same thing you do. Since it's more popular now, esp with the younger folks, kids and teens don't get bullied as much for liking anime. Idk about you, but I'm glad that less people will deal with the same harassment I did at their age.
Mar 24, 2021 12:15 PM

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Can we stop with this bullshit. So what, are you better than the people who came after you? Stop this stupid mentality and let people join the fucking fandom. "Bro, your so fucking inferior to me, you joined in the last few years...what a fucking degenerate you are, get the fuck out."

Don't get me wrong it's cool that you've been in this fandom for such a long time. Actually it's even more depressing to see this thread come from someone like you. Instead of pushing people to come to the fandom and see what it can bring to the table, being "happy" with "new blood" joining, you're just gatekeeping and saying that they are fake...
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Mar 24, 2021 12:15 PM

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I've been watching anime since the 80's I don't feel more superior to those who started later.
. But honestly does it matter if people are new to anime as long as they enjoy it?
Mar 24, 2021 12:16 PM

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Ive been watching anime since the early 90's so in a sense I could consider you to be a bandwagon fan. I dont care if you've been watching anime for years or months, as long as you accept the medium as it is and dont whine about how this is "problematic or how blah blah offends me and should be changed new fans are fine in my book. But if you're gonna come in to our world and demand it change to fit your world view well the people like that can just blank right off
Mar 24, 2021 12:22 PM

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What's wrong with being a bandwagon fan?I admit that I'm a bandwagon fan myself.I also watch anime that gets less attention but they are very less compared to popular ones.

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Mar 24, 2021 12:44 PM
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I mean, they have to start somewhere, right?


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Mar 24, 2021 12:53 PM

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Eh, I don't care much, everyone is new at some moment. If they were dicks in the past towards the medium and its fans but now are part of it then perhaps they changed for good? I mean, what would they gain for pretending to like anime? Nothing

What bothers me is newer fans acting like they know better than older fans and making fun of them, but it happens both ways so what
Mar 24, 2021 1:27 PM

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I don't really think of newer fans like this in the first place.

As anime became more mainstream and popular, and much more easily accessible, it's natural that more and more people started to take notice of it. I think lot of these newer fans just never really noticed anime before, or they never thought to check it out, but once they actually did, they found that they liked it. It's as simple as that.

I think the ones who got into it just because they wanted to jump on the bandwagon are a minority. And even IF that's why they originally started watching anime, they stuck around because they genuinely enjoyed it. Otherwise, they would have lost interest by now.

Thinking about it, when I was new to the fandom in the late 90s, I'm sure some of the long-time fans in the anime forums and chat rooms I frequented, who had been watching anime on blurry 3rd and 4th generation VHS fansubs since the 80s, saw ME as a "bandwagon fan," since I was part of a huge influx of new fans into the community in the late 90s who had just discovered anime through Toonami on US TV. We all have to start somewhere, and we were all new to this once, so I don't understand why anyone would look down on newer fans.

Things like this are all kind of up to chance. If I didn't happen see that episode of Sailor Moon that day, maybe I wouldn't have noticed anime until much later, if at all. I'm not going to take credit for being born earlier, for having cable TV, for having decent internet in the early 2000s that allowed me to download fansubs when they started moving to online distribution, etc... I was lucky, that's all. I don't think I'm more special than someone who was bored last year and decided to check out anime on Netflix for the first time on a whim.
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Mar 24, 2021 4:47 PM

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could not care less. if they want to watch anime go ahead.
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Mar 24, 2021 4:51 PM

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I feel great about new fans.
Bandwagon or not, anime getting attention makes it more normalized which means more people will get access to anime.
That's a win for everyone.
Mar 24, 2021 4:56 PM

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Am I a bandwagoner for entering the anime community 9 months ago? Because it's not fair to judge people on how long they've watched anime for, because it's still the exact same shows even though you watched it at different times.

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Mar 24, 2021 4:57 PM
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Let us be real - Almost ALL fans are pretty much Bandwagoning... I mean let us face it, Most of y'all are or were only into certain anime not because it's good but because someone before the first episode was even released told you that "this Anime" was the hype.
Mar 24, 2021 5:04 PM

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Let us be real - Almost ALL fans are pretty much Bandwagoning... I mean let us face it, Most of y'all are or were only into certain anime not because it's good but because someone before the first episode was even released told you that "this Anime" was the hype.
Well to a certain extent, you're not wrong. Most people usually give leeway to shows that are critically acclaimed esp the ones that "get better the further you watch"
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Mar 24, 2021 5:05 PM

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I honestly don't care about when or why they're here, no. There have been times when accounts made in 2020 with sub-300 posts have tried telling me how this community really works, but it's only when people with ultra young accounts like that try acting like authorities over what happens on MAL that I get judgemental towards them for being new. That is a very specific scenario, too, that almost never happens.

I will hate them for being here, though, unless they're ecchi fans. Fuck this community and fuck you for being a part of it.

Mar 24, 2021 5:09 PM

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I think it's fine, more people watching content they enjoy is good. The only gripe I really have is that they don't branch out a whole lot and stay fixated on certain shows, which I get annoyed about.

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SoulResonanceMAL said:
Let us be real - Almost ALL fans are pretty much Bandwagoning... I mean let us face it, Most of y'all are or were only into certain anime not because it's good but because someone before the first episode was even released told you that "this Anime" was the hype.
Well to a certain extent, you're not wrong. Most people usually give leeway to shows that are critically acclaimed esp the ones that "get better the further you watch"


I honestly do not get it - I honestly think it is the most stupid thing Anime fans do... Some Anime site says this Anime is going to be the hottest thing of the season before anyone has watched a single episode (most probably haven't even watched a trailer) and the fandom just "believes" it? O_o
Mar 24, 2021 5:17 PM

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As long as they can appreciate art, that's fine by me! There will always be trolls and haters in everything. You enjoy what you enjoy and we just hope for more great content in the future!
Mar 24, 2021 5:20 PM

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its okay to be "in" on something just because its becoming popular.

but if you watch snk s4 without watching the previous seasons then wtf are you doing. seriously though I see people on social media like that lmao. I mean I don't particularly care but still kinda weird champ.
Mar 24, 2021 5:21 PM

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*stops his bandwagon in the middle of the road*

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Mar 24, 2021 5:28 PM
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I've never met someone who claimed to like anime that wasn't a complete degenerate of a weeb. I'm not particularly sure why someone would pretend to like anime... it's not like it's all that socially acceptable, like sports. I can't really even think of an anime that was so great that it bled over into non-weeb territory and became like a "must watch." Maybe if Hollywood endorsed something like that, then I could see people going to see it and acting like they've been all about "the anime" their whole life while trying to impress someone.

I've been watching anime since the late 90s and it sorta snowballed with each year and now I'm here. I've caught a lot of flak for it too, so I definitely would call someone out on their bullshit if they started trying to flex on me.
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but if you watch snk s4 without watching the previous seasons then wtf are you doing. seriously though I see people on social media like that lmao. I mean I don't particularly care but still kinda weird champ.


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Mar 24, 2021 5:54 PM

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Don’t care. Everyone one gets into anime at different points, there’s nothing wrong with being a new or casual fan.
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I would be glad if they genuinely like anime instead of bullying it like they did back in the day



Mar 24, 2021 10:23 PM
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Judevin said:
I feel great about new fans.
Bandwagon or not, anime getting attention makes it more normalized which means more people will get access to anime.
That's a win for everyone.


Not necessarily as the bigger the fandom gets the more toxic assholes appear.

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Personally for me i fucking hate dickriders getting into something mainly cause its popular.

Mar 24, 2021 10:39 PM

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Crow_Black said:
Judevin said:
I feel great about new fans.
Bandwagon or not, anime getting attention makes it more normalized which means more people will get access to anime.
That's a win for everyone.


Not necessarily as the bigger the fandom gets the more toxic assholes appear.
Toxic or not, popularity is popularity, man.
If a show trends on twitter, or any other social media, it increases the eyes that it has on it.
A boost in popularity means an increase in sales, and if sales increase, then access increases.
Because then countries that don't have access to anime but have people that keep tweeting about it will realize that they can capitalize on it.
So yes, toxic fans will appear I don't deny that, you have toxic fans even in the most niche communities, but at least bandwagons bring more popularity and access to everyone.
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Judevin said:
Crow_Black said:


Not necessarily as the bigger the fandom gets the more toxic assholes appear.
Toxic or not, popularity is popularity, man.
If a show trends on twitter, or any other social media, it increases the eyes that it has on it.
A boost in popularity means an increase in sales, and if sales increase, then access increases.
Because then countries that don't have access to anime but have people that keep tweeting about it will realize that they can capitalize on it.
So yes, toxic fans will appear I don't deny that, you have toxic fans even in the most niche communities, but at least bandwagons bring more popularity and access to everyone.


A show's quality should not be judged by its popularity be it ranking or in score.

Twitter itself is actually very harmful for anime and anime artists as there is an ongoing art police war against people who draw anime style art and are trying to harass and bully these people off from the site so i wouldn't call twitter a benefit at all to anime.

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